[X&Y] A Fate Worse Than The "Just Be Friends Zone"

Published: Sat, 05/27/23



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READER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS:  THE "POST JBF ZONE"
(DON'T GO THERE)



Hi Scot,

I was looking for your advice on my current situation.  

I have a roommate who has lived with me for 1 1/2 years.  When she
moved in we got along great and she even told me she loved me.  But
the love never has translated into a relationship in a romantic
sense.  

Lately she has become very dominant...to the point where she was
telling me when to go to bed.  

I'm a patient guy but I could only take so much and the last time
she got an attitude with me I blew up at her and told her to stop
it.  

This ended up in an argument that lasted for a long time.

Most of the arguing was on her side after I said what I had to say
and quit arguing.  

After a few days we went and talked to a mutual friend of both of
us.  We both agreed we were wrong about certain things and said we
would wipe the slate clean.  

Prior to the meeting she said she was going to look for a place to
move to.  She has told me she is moving out at the end of the month.  

I re-apologized for some of the things I said the other evening and
she said the slate was clean and that me apologizing was like pouring
salt in the wound.  

She acts nice to me now but still plans on moving out the end of
the month.  

I sent flowers to her work to try to create an atmosphere that
could help create a real relationship.  

She liked the flowers and all the attention she got from the other
girls in the office.  

Also in our conversation with our mutual friend she said that I had
never asked her out.

Many times in the past 3 years we have went out but I didn't say,
"Do you want to go out with me?"  

I would say, "Do you want to go to the movies?" or something
like that.  So she said we were just hanging out, not dating.  

I have given her a few small gifts in the past 2 weeks.  2 days ago
I gave her a pearl necklace.  

She opened the box and said we have to talk.  She said, "We have
hung out a lot in the past 3 years and I look at you as a friend." 

This is after she said I never asked her out?  

I really don't want her to move out but I don't know how to get her
to want to be in a relationship with me.  

If she moves out it will be a financial struggle for her and on top
of that she doesn't have a car.  

So I was helping her out a lot with rides to work, etc. and letting
her stay with me no charge.

It looks like she still has hurt feelings from all that has happened
in the past even though she says the slate is clean, otherwise she
probably wouldn't want to move under the circumstances.  

Any idea on how to move her in to a relationship and keep her with
me in 2 weeks?


Thanks,

Brett




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OK Brett, here it is.

Notwithstanding operational semantics, there is no "relationship" to
be had here.  There's not one currently, and continuing to pursue one
is ill-advised, at best.

Not only are you not on track to becoming this woman's boyfriend, I
doubt you're really even her friend.  

It's time to wake up here.  You are paying her way in life, and yet she
doesn't bring anything to the table in return.  

This is the classic end-game representation of manipulation.  

You give and give some more, and she ends up completely in charge.  

Yet YOU are the one feeling a "guilt trip".

Think of it this way.  You are giving away everything to her, yet
you're concerned about what happens if she leaves. 

She doesn't have a car.  She doesn't have a job.  Yet...she orders
you around and even tells you when to go to bed. 

What, is that her "job"...and one that you pay her well for, no
less?  

You have an "employee", Brett.  And weirdly, she's also your "boss".

My firm opinion is that she is in need of a change in career path.  
What is going on here doesn't even qualify you as the "sexless
boyfriend".  

But let's put all of these important factors aside for a brief
moment.  On top of all else, your dating life has been literally
hamstrung for the past year and a half.  

There are at least two reasons for this.  

First, there's the simple fact that no woman whom you could
potentially have had a real relationship with during that time
would have been okay with the fact that you...uh...have one
roommate, who's FEMALE.  

Second, any hope of a real dating life has been squashed
because she has trained you to be subservient.

There is no option for you right now but to break free of this.

She is doing you a favor by leaving.  It may be difficult to see
that right now, but stay tuned to what we're up to around here at
X & Y Communications and you'll be crystal clear in no time.  

You've let me down here, Brett.  I would have been much happier
to read that you finally had seen the light and were kicking her out.  

The fact that this is actually allowed to be her own decision...
and that even now you're attempting to buy her attraction with
flowers and expensive gifts practically cajoles my lunch to the
surface.

By the way, of COURSE she is telling you she liked the flowers.  OF
COURSE she likes how her co-workers reacted.  That changes
NOTHING in the attraction department.  

Oh wait...maybe it does.  

It makes things even BLEAKER for you.

That's why you got a "talk" after giving her the necklace.  That
talk wasn't simply a "JBF Talk", it was the "Post JBF Talk".

That's the sit-down you get that goes something like this:  "Look,
didn't we go over this before?  You're supposed to remain harmless,
remember?  Fine, then.  Now you stay in line from now on, okay?"

The bottom line is that women do not feel attraction for men they
cannot respect.  Mark that.  There was never anything romantic
going on here, and as it stands there never will be.  

Your flowers and pearl necklaces only served to dig your pit even
deeper.  You have built an impermeable position as a powerless
beggar here, and that never works with women.

And if she mentioned that you "haven't asked her out" to someone
else, that was meant as a flimsy shield against the bright light
that would shine on her manipulative nature were anyone to really
discover the fullness of what goes on (or doesn't) between you two.

As long as she has your timid nature to keep her warm at night, she
can make that excuse all day long.  But rest assured, she knows
exactly where you stand.

Do us all proud, Brett and tell this narcissistic user/manipulator not to
let the door hit her on the way out.  She has no feelings for you.

Going forward, man up and deserve a great woman.  It can happen for
you sooner than you think with some simple changes in habits and in
the decisions you make.  

For example, change the habit of being passive with your generous
spirit and make the decision NOT to be anyone's doormat.  

Great women of character will love you for it, as ironic as that may
sound to you right now.    


Be Good,

Scot McKay




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